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Verbals -- Advanced Questions

Pre-positioned Gerundives

     A pre-positioned gerundive is simply a "gerundive" that appears almost immediately before the word it modifies, as in "the tired old man." Many developmental linguists claim that pre-school children use gerundives, but I suspect that they are looking at these pre-positioned items. (It's usually difficult to tell what they mean because they usually give no examples.) The KISS Approach does not consider these words as true gerundives for two related reasons, both of which are related to the question of natural language development.
     Within KISS theory, a true gerundive is a reduction of a subordinate clause. Language development appears to begin with simple S/V/C patterns:

The old man was still working. He was tired.
It then progresses into subordinate clauses:
The old man, who was tired, was still working.
And later we learn to reduce the subordinate clause to a gerundive:
The tired old man was still working.
Theoretically, in other words, it is possible that these words are true gerundives. But it is just as possible that children add these words to their vocabulary in the same way that they add regular adjectives:
The sleepy old man was still working.
If this is the case, then words such as "tired" should not be considered as gerundives because they do not reflect the advanced syntactic development of the gerundive.
     That they are not, in fact, gerundives in the KISS sense is suggested by their general lack of phrasal modifiers. In
The very tired old man was still working.
KISS would consider "tired" as a regular adjective, but in
The old man, tired from a full day
in the field, was still working.
"tired" is out of the normal adjectival "pre-position" and is itself more heavily modified. Hence it functions as a gerundive.
     This question, of course, needs more research, and you can decide for yourself whether or not you want to consider these words as gerundives.

"For" plus an infinitive

     If you analyze enough sentences, you will run into a sentence such as:

For Bill to go to New York is a bad idea.
Infinitives that have subjects apparently can't simply function as subjects: they require the preposition "for." There are at least two ways to explain this construction. One is to say that the infinitive is the object of the preposition, that "Bill" is the subject of the infinitive, and that the prepositional phrase functions as a noun, the subject of the sentence. (By the time you get to infinitives, you will have already detected the pedagogical lie about "all" prepositional phrases functioning as adjectives or adverbs: you have probably seen a few as indirect objects.)  The other approach is to say that the infinitive ("to go") is the subject of the sentence, and the prepositional phrase, in this case, "For Bill," functions as an adverb either to the infinitive or to the main verb (in this case, "is").
      (It is very important not to get hung up on this complication. Linguists won't like my explanation, but most students accept it; the construction is rare; no one ever never makes a mistake in using it, and you need to understand the most common cases first: if one infinitive in 500 appears in a prepositional phrase with "for," worry about it only after you can explain the 499 that don't.)

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