Dec. 20, 2014
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St. Anthony
of Padua 
The KISS Grammar
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(The KISSList)
My father's name was Anthony.
Note: Several people have been deleted from the list because our list administrator asked me to do so after messages sent to them were returned as "Address unknown" or some such thing. I usually try to send messages to these people to make sure that the address doesn't work, and, when it doesn't, I have no way of contacting them. If you do get so cut off, don't hesitate to reapply. (See below.) Messages from the list should now appear with "[KISS]" in the subject line.

        During my years as a member of the NCTE Assembly for the Teaching of English Grammar (ATEG), I have seen people come and go on the ATEG list server. It is my impression that many of the people who left did so because that list deals with all aspects of grammar, many of which are very theoretical and of no interest to practicing teachers, etc. I have also refrained from peppering that list with questions relevant specifically to the KISS Approach to Grammar. On the other hand, I have received many questions about KISS Grammar, and there are many people who are interested in the specifics of this approach.
     I therefore asked Pennsylvania College of Technology for a list which would be related specifically to the KISS Approach to teaching grammar. Here we can discuss any questions related to the KISS Approach:

the analysis of specific sentences, 
definitions of KISS terms, 
types of effective exercises, 
examples of specific exercises, 
problems in using the approach, 
sequencing of instruction, 
and natural syntactic development. 
Among other things, I am hoping that people will use this list to offer suggestions, both for different types of exercises, and for specific exercises. Anyone who is interested in discussing the KISS Approach may become a member of the list. This includes not only teachers, but also home-schooling parents, administrators, business people, etc. 
     The only requirement is that messages (and questions) sent to the list must be related to KISS Grammar *. To enforce this requirement, and thus keep the list on focus (and to avoid spam), I asked for control of the list membership. To be added to (or deleted from) the list, simply send a request to me at

Please include your name, your e-mail address, and one or more of the following codes:

HP Home Schooling -Primary Grades
HM Home Schooling - Middle Grades
HH Home schooling - High School
PP Classroom Teacher (Public or Private) - Primary School
PM Classroom Teacher (Public or Private) - Middle School
PH Classroom Teacher (Public or Private) - High School
CSP Curriculum Specialist - Primary School
CSM Curriculum Specialist - Middle School
CSH Curriculum Specialist - High School
WCH Writing Center Specialist - High School
WCC Writing Center Specialist - College
AD School Administration
CC College Composition Teacher
CG Teach Grammar to Future Teachers
EE English Education Teacher (College)
TW Textbook Writer
S Self-Instruction
O Other

The primary purpose of the codes is to give me a basic perspective of who is on the list. I hope you find this list to be both enjoyable and educational.

Other KISS Discussion Groups

The Yahoo KISSGrammarGroup

      Since this list was started, Leah Del Signore (a member of this list) has started a Yahoo KISS Grammar Group. You can join it by going to It is more active than the KISS List, and, simply as a matter of time and audience, I answer questions there in more detail than I do direct messages to me.

The KISS Grammar Forum

     After I expressed the desire to have a discussion format with more organized separate strands for various approaches to KISS, Leah also established a phpBB board. Once again I owe her my thanks.

* People interested in discussing other approaches to teaching (and aspects of) grammar will find the ATEG list very hospitable. NCTE members can, of course, discuss grammatical questions on several of NCTE's lists. Albert E. Krahn's Punctuation Underdog Page includes an invitation to a list for the discussion of punctuation problems. Questions of usage are not a primary focus of the KISS Approach, but Paul Brians' Common Errors in English is a useful site.