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Spring 1998: MP # 3
A Set of Essays on Foils in Hamlet
Students' Comments  
on the Essays and Grading
 


 
Introduction

     Curious about what students thought about the essays and my grading, I asked them to read the papers and my grades and comments, and then to select one specific grade that I gave to each of two papers and explain why I was wrong. For example, they could look at the grades on two papers for similarities for foil # 1 and explain why my grade for one of the papers was not fair to the other. As an incentive for doing this, I offered up to two course bonus points for their responses. At the time this offer was made, only about half of the essays were on the net, but students did have a wide range to choose from. The following are the responses I received. I am reproducing them here both to show what students thought and to respond to some of their misunderstandings. Students' comments are in blue; mine, in brown.



     Although I had offered two course points, the following comments are from a student who did not do well in the course. I gave the student three points, rather than two.

     It is understandable that grading papers, especially written work, can not be done to perfection. Everyone can find something to complain about. I analyzed each paper you grade [sic] and found some things that I would change. I based each of these critisms [sic] on the way that you graded everyone else's papers.
     To start with, you never give anyone points for effort. So many of these writings had so much though and effort put into them yet, they got such low grades. Not everyone was born a natural writer. I thought teachers are there to grade us on what we have learnt rather than how little we know. I personally know everyone in the class has learnt [sic] an extreme amount. Everyone is writing much better papers. Yet, everyone is still getting on average lower grades than what they deserve.

     As I looked over everyone's introductory paragraphs I noted that paper #863 didn't receive as many points for this as most of the other papers did. Paper #579 didn't even relate the introductory paragraph to the play that well. On the other hand paper # 863 at least kept it short, sweat [sic], and related to the play. It gets it's [sic] point across. When reading paper #579 and finishing the introductory paragraph you just think so what? Paper #275 had an almost identical introductory as #863 yet, received more points. #863 has a sentence in that doesn't even belong there. "Sometimes foils are put in a play so the main characer has someone to talk to"? You must agree that makes no sense. Yet still this paragraph still received more points than the to the point, introductory paragraph of paper # 863.      Moving on to the definition of foils being included in the essay, yet not in the introduction. Paper #579 has an extremely nice definition of foils in the third paragraph and only received 3 points! Paper #539 has no definition of foils at all. If it does it certainly doesn't make it clear to me what they are. This paper received 5 points! Paper #426 gives A Random House College Dictionary definition of foils in the second paragraph and only receives 4 points. Paper #275 gives whatsoever no definition of foils, not even a clue and received 2 points. Two points that weren't deserved. Paper #863 at least hinted as to what foils are throughout the paper yet has a big zero next to the definitions of foils.      I must say that nobody's paper simply retold the story and nobody received less than the maximum amount of points for this. I was glad to see.
     When looking over paper #863's concluding paragraph I see you gave it only 3 points. But it was a very strong paragraph. It may have been short, but it wrapped up the paper better than #121 and #121 received more points. Everyone else's conclusions seemed to be graded fairly.      I am not even going to considerd [sic] trying to find things wrong with the way graded thesis. [sic] This seems to be my weak point. I must say I analyzed everyone's thesis and how you graded them. And if it matters at all I finally have begun to understand thesis a whole lot more. Perhaps I find no critism [sic] in this area but I am sure glad I tried because I learnt a lot. All in all I wish you would have made us do this with the first major paper instead of the last. I think we would have gotten a much better picture of what you expect. I also know that we could of [sic] learnt so much about the concept of the course much earlier in the course had this been done after Major Paper #2.

 [Two points:]

1.     This final paper is a difficult one for me to do. I usually look for good points rather than not-so-good points in other people and the work that they do. I found this especially difficult because I also know how people are different: what is important to one doesn't even concern another. When comparing the grading sheets, I felt they were fair and accurate. The low grade papers were deserving of the grade the [sic] received. Idid, however, find one paper I had a slight disagreement with. Upon reading paper 86/75 and reviewing the grading sheet, I disagree with the 2 points received for "The difference between foil 2 and Hamlet..." and "An explanation of similarities establishes Laertes..."  [I think this writer is referring to paper 75/86, as there is no 86/75.]
2.     Although there were many similarities between the two, only two were mentioned. This does not give much support for the concept that Laertes is a foil for Hamlet. If the writer had mentioned they were the same age, they were both skilled in fencing and they both loved Ophelia, the base of support for the foil would have been stronger. Also, Ophelia's death could have been related to the evil concept of the story. She did die, but it was a tragic death, due to her father's murder; thus, relating it to evil. This could also lead to the differences between Laertes and Hamlet.
3.     Laertes was, in fact, avenging the death of his father and sister. Hamlet was only avenging the death of his father. Other differences could also have been used to support the foil concept. Hamlet's passiveness to avenge his father's death was a good point compared to the aggression of Laertes. However, I don't fgeel that expanding on this point would support the "evil" theme.
4.     This paper could have done more with the similarities and differences between Hamlet and Laertes. I do not feel what I read supported the 4 points these two areas received. Had I graded this paper, "similarities" and "differences" would have each received 1 point. The play had a lot more to offer that [sic] what was in the paper.



 [Two points:]

       In looking at the Major Paper assignment number three, which was to write about the foils in Hamlet, I took particular interest in the grades for G65-01 and G48-01. In paper G65-01, the student presented a poor outline with four subdivisions and no descriptions for the subdivisions. The student went as far as saying they "never liked writing outlines, nor do they think they are helpful." In the section of the grading sheet which says the essay is to be accompanied by a typed formal outline with subdivisions, the student received 2 out of a possible 4 points. I feel the student should have received ZERO points for the simple fact that outlines have been a requirement for ALL of the major papers, ALL of the in-class essays, and some of the homework assignments.
     On the other hand, in paper G48-01 the student presented a solid outline with subdivisions and descriptions. The student received 1 out of a possible 4 points in this area while presenting a more descriptive outline than in paper G65-01. I feel the student should have at least received 2 points in this area, and possibly 3 points if the outline in paper G65-01 could manage to receive 2 points in that area. I don't feel the outline in G48-01 was "totally unacceptable." But I do feel it was incomplete, yet the student had a nice start in trying to produce a solid outline.



[Two points:]

     I do not agree with papers 116 and 539 getting 1 bonus point for their outlines when paper number 433 did not get the points. You gave paper number 433 all possible points in the organization category and the other two papers in one of the organiation categories received a 3. Paper 433 Also [sic] spent 60 minutes brainstorming and did not receive points for that time. Again, paper 539 received credit and time logged was 45 minutes. If paper number 433 would have received this bonus points [sic] the final score would have been 101.



[Two points:]

     I have read over all of the papers that were posted on the Internet. I have noticed  two certain points in this paper that weren't in any other paper. The paper was G85-01. For this paper the student has not given a self-grading. Only the instructor's grading is there. The first grading that caught my eye was the question that deals with the definition of what a Foil is. This particular paper was graded with a 0 in a 0 - 5 scale. I read over the paper where the definition of a Foil should be and I agree that this particular student has not given a description or definition of a Foil. Although, I do not agree that the grade for this part should've been a 0. I still do not believe that the student should've gotten a 5, but definitely not a 0. The third sentence of the first paragraph states, "The foils of Hamlet, to the Prince Hamlet, gives the reader a bsis to summarize his character within the play." This sentence is giving an inkling to what the meaning of a Foil is. It still isn't the full definition. The first two sentences of the second paragraph help out with my explanation of this grade. They state, "The first foil or character that sets off Hamlet, in the play is Laertes. After King Hanlet's death, he, along with Prince Hamlet, return to Denmark for the funeral services. That is the first sign that Laertes will become a foil to Hamlet in the play." This saying is also giving a small amount of information to my explanation. It tells what Laertes is to Prince Hamlet and forsees what Laertes will be to Hamlet. Now I know that this isn't the greatest explanation for the grading, but that's why I said this person shouldn't deserve a 5 on that part, but I think they should deserve better than a 0.



[Two points:]

     Between paper #539 and #579 there seemed to be some bias. I thought that #579 was the best of all the papers on the web. It's strong examples of similarities and differences between Laertes and Fortinbras, and the superb understanding of foils should have earned it a 100%. It was clear, understandable, and interesting. In paper #539, I found myself getting confused quite a bit. It seemed as though you easily looked over this person's errors. For instance, the constant repetition. If the writer was speaking of a character, instead of using pronouns it seemed as though in every sentence they restated the characters name. It also seemed as though a few of the paragraphs were restating the same exact facts as the paragraph before. I understand that you did take points off, but they were earned back with the bonus. I found that the bonus section, although it would have been time consuming, should have also been put on the web so we could judge bonus points. In #579 you took points off mostly because they didn't mention the foil's use as a listener; but I felt that with such extraordinary details with similarities and differences that this should have been overlooked just like the repetition in paper #539.


 [Two points:]

     The sections that I chose to look into the grading of were the audience (worth 20 points) and the thesis (worth 20 points). I chose a paper with a grade of 78 --"The Foils of Hamlet" and compared it with a paper with a grade of 44 -- "Revenge."
     One particular grade that I did not understand was how paper 44 got a higher score of 3 (out of 5) for the definition of a foil, while paper 78 only got a score of 2 (out of 5). Paper 78 gives a whole paragraph about foils, but paper 44 only gives a brief one to two (Well, it should have ony been one sentence) definition.  I actually think the grades should both be 2 because neither one truly described what a foil was and what role they have in a play. (I made this determination by also reading other foil defnitions that were much better.)
     Another area I questioned was the conclusion. Paper 44 got a score of 2 (out of 5) while paper 78 got a score of 3 (out of 5). I thought paper 78 basically said the same thing paper 44 did but just repeated themselves again to add more to the conclusion. Paper 78 talks twice about "the outcome of the play"; they merely changed a few words to make it look good. I don't think that warrants extra points.
     The thesis is another area for debate. Paper 44 got a score of 3 (out of 4) for having the thesis recognizable, somewhere near the beginning of the essay, whereas paper 78 got a score of 4 (out of 4). I actually thought paper 48 [44?] had the better thesis. Therefore, I also would not have given paper 44 a score of 2 (out of 4) for the thesis and essay reflecting at least an average understanding of foils in Hamlet without lowering the score of paper 78.
      The grading was, for the most part, the same as I would have given -- maybe even a little more generous. The bad thing about it is I still don't think my papers for this class were all that great for the grades I got. I think it would have been interesting to evaluate our own paper in comparison with others. I could have probably really ripped that one apart! :) [Note -- This writer's paper was not on the net in time for it to be considered by the class. It is always helpful to be able to quote a student who says that I grade generously; some students claim just the opposite.]



 [Two points:]

     The two papers that I have compared were #275 to #478. And to be even more specific the definition of a "foil." A "foil" is defined in the Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary and I quote "some one or something that serves as a contrast to another."
     In paper number 478 you find the "foil" definition in paragraph 2. So it should get some points for not putting it in the introduction, but even the instructor pretty much disagrees with the defination with comments such as :" A foil has to be both similar and different" which question the defination totally. Even in the paragraph later on the instructor again questions the definition by saying "According to the  you gave, [sic] a foil is the minor character. How can these two be foils for each other?" This is two major problems with the definition and still the instructor gives this student a grade of 3 out of 5.
     In the second paper I looked at was number 275. In this paper the student does put the definition in the first paragraph, so points should be deducted right there. But that is the only problem I can see in the definition. The instructor doesn't even put mark on the paper till the second paragraph. The definition of a "foil" is fundamental sound and grasps the concept of a "foil," but on the grading sheet the instructor give [sic] this person a 2 out of 5 with comments saying "It is too short and in the introduction."
     I have read these two papers and realized something. That it doesn't matter what you write or how creatie you are in your writing, you always have to follow the rules (which is ashame [sic]) no matter what you would like to do. In my opinion paper 275 should of [sic] recieved [sic] at least 3 or even maybe a 4. Now I know that there was an instructional mistake made but the definition is definatly [sic] sound.



[Two points:]

     When going through and looking at papers I came on to [sic] two papers which by reading them and just looking at the first two items that were graded, I feel the one person got ripped off two points. The first item that was graded was the essay has a good introduction paragraph. In student's paper number 579 the professor gave that person a five out of five for their introduction. Which I do agree with the professor on. This was a great introduction. It gave a little background of the person and how Hamlet reminded them of a humorous moment in their life. When we go and look at student's paper number 116 the professor gave that person a four out of five. I feel this person deserved a five out of five because it too is a great introduction. It goes on to say how in the play of Hamlet the character came. [?] It says that we met Hamlet and through Hamlet we met Horatio. Then it goes on to tell us how we met the other characters in the play. I feel this was a great introduction, which as the first one pulls us into the paper and wants us to read more. I feel this to deserve a five out of five.
     The next thing that I noticed with these two papers comes from the second item on the grading sheet. That would be the essay includes a brief definition of foil and it question [?] goes on to say more, but this is where I feel again that same student got ripped off. We look at student's paper number 579 and see that this person goes on the [sic] describe foils used in the play "so that the readers are better able to understand the major character (Hamlet). In a foil, the minor character is similar in many ways to the main character so that we will compare the two. However, it is through these similarities that we are able to see the more important differences between the two." The professor gave this person a five out of five, which again I do believe this person deserved that grade. However, I feel when reading student's paper number 116 and seeing that they gave a definition for foil as "a minor character in a play or novel that shows the feelings and thoughts of the major character. This is done not only be the dialog between the two characters, but also their similarities and differences." I do believe from what I have read that these two papers gave great definitions of foil and both of them say about the exact same thing. That is why I also feel this person deserved a five out of five for these item [sic] rather then [sic] a four out of five.





[One point:]

     In the paper, G92-01, the conclusion grade distributed to them is a four. However in paper, G87-01, the conclusion grade given to them is a three. Both of the paper's conclusions are in a sense vague. They both speak about the similarities and differences at the end of the paper also, neither of them seem to be using examples at the end. They are pretty much talking about the same thing. Paper G92-01 uses Laertes and Horatio as foils for Hamlet. Paper G87-01 uses the ghost and Laertes as foils for Hamlet.



[One point:]

     On paper G92 01 the person got a 3 for similarities between Hamlet and Laertes. That person had a lot of examples of why they were similar, but they did not really explain them. There was some explanation. On paper G87 01 the person had as many examples but that person explained their examples in more detail. I think the person with G92 01 should have gotten a lower grade for that section of paper because they did not do enough explaining.



[One point:]

     On paper 863, paragraph 2, it got three points. On paper 777, paragraph 3, it got two points. They are both about Hamlet / Laertes. 347 was written well and should have received more points.



[One point:]

1.      In paper #777, Mirror Images I believe that a scolding notation should have been placed in the paper because the student didn't use the tutoring center. This could've been a great paper.
2.     In paper #643, Continuing Cycle of Evil, you graded his thesis as a four. I believe this was too generous. On paper #241, you gave another four on a much inferior paper. Perhaps you are to easy to [sic] please on thesis paragraphs!



[One point:]

      This comparison deals with Major Paper #3 S98G92 and paper #3 S98G83.
      In comparing the two papers, the paper which received a 97 [sic] has numerous sloppy errors. This is also the case with the paper that received the 83. However, the errors in the paper with the higher grade were not detected by the instructor and were left uncorrected . These errors appear in paragraphs 2, 4, 6 and 7.
     In addition, the paper which received a 97 scored a 2 out of 2 for mature and varied sentene structure, however paragraphs 4 and 5 appear to be choppy and difficult to understand. Moreoever, there appears to be a runon sentence in paragraph #7.
 



[One point:]

     The problem I looked at with the major papers is the definition of foils. In Madness (G78-01) the foil definition is in the first paragraph and it got a 3. In G66-01 -- A Better Understanding of Major Characters -- the introduction also contains the definition of a foils but it got a one.



     Although the preceding was time-consuming, and I could not possible do it for every paper, it was both interesting and, I hope, rewarding -- for me as well as for some students. It has given me an idea of some things that I need to clarify, and some ideas for doing so. On the negative side, I found it disappointing that, given the opportunity for two course bonus points, only 15 of the 32 students who handed in the paper took the opportunity. Because students in my courses always know what their current course grade is, some of the students may have skipped the opportunity because they knew that they had, for example, a solid C and that the points wouldn't help them. But this was not always the case.
 

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